My friend wanted a low cost Laptop and went for Dell 1525. Here in Singapore, it is really a value for money Notebook. For SGD 1099 we get a full featured Laptop with the following Configuration
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor T2390
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic
2GB DDR2 SDRAM
15.4” WXGA Display with Integrated 2.0 mega pixel web cam
160GB* SATA Hard Drive
8X DVD Burner
Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Dell™ Wireless 1395 802.11g Wi-Fi Mini-card
1-Year Limited Warranty (Next Business Day On-Site* Service)
Everything is OK with this Laptop, just one issue- It has Vista Basic. Now Vista Basic does not have the cool features of Home Premium, nor is it as snappy as Windows XP. Dell also installs a 30-days subscription of McAffee anti-virus, which although secures the system, but at the same time further makes Vista slower. To further accentuate the problem he uses Netbeans ( his company uses it )for his java development work and had to use OpenOffice ( he does not want to pay SGD 200 for a basic version of MS Office ). Now these two are resource hungry and make Vista crawl. We discussed his problem and came with two possible alternatives
- Downgrade to XP SP3 ( which is blazingly fast compared to Vista). This was the most obvious option and a good one too as Dell is known to provide drivers for XP and my friend would have an OS he is very comfortable with. However, there is one problem - MS allows downgrade only for Vista Ultimate and Business editions. That means that my friend has to BUY XP and this defeats the entire purpose of having a Low cost Notebook. Since my Friend had to do some of his official work on this Laptop, so a pirated copy of XP was ruled out. Also, as Dell provided only a 30-Days McAffee subscription, he had to mandatoryily buy a years subscription ( read spend more money). Though extremely tempting this option was ruled out.
My friend had almost given up and was about to just buy McAffee 1-year subscription and bear the slow Vista. He said that he will upgrade to more RAM after a month or two of saving. It was then that I pitched in and suggested him to give Mandriva 2008 Spring a try. Now he is not afraid of Linux and said that if all the peripherals worked good and the speed is better than Vista, he will consider Ubuntu. His rationale was based on tha fact that Dell officially ships the same Laptop "Inspiron 1525" with Ubuntu pre-installed in US so Ubuntu should have no problem on this one too. I reminded myself that Ubuntu is the most dominant Distro, but the trouble was that I had to download the Ubuntu LiveCD, whereas I had Mandriva 2008 Spring One on a CD. So we decided to download Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS on my Laptop and in the meanwhile try Mandriva on his Dell.
Good thing for me is that Mandriva One is an excellent flavor of Linux. It comes with almost all the necessary drivers and application. We booted with the LiveCD and in no time we had a beautiful desktop.
With all the peripherals working out of the box, the next check was for provided software. This is another area where Mandriva One shines. Apart from the beautiful KDE; it has
- OpenOffice,
- Firefox ( as default browser against most KDE based distros which have Konqueror ) ,
- many media codecs,
- GIMP,
- DigiKam,
- Amarok and other media players.
- Support for Windows Mobile Phone, which we could use to sync the new Samsung Omnia.
- Excellent Control Center for any configurations ( if required).
Now these are enough for normal working of an average user. However, he wanted Netbeans which was an easy download and install from Netbeans website. To our amazement, Mandriva Live CD was easily able to takeup OpenOffice, Firefox and Netbeans all at the same time. Please Note that LiveCD also takes up good amount of RAM.
Here we had Mandriva running from RAM and still faster than INSTALLED Vista Basic on the same hardware. All the hardware was properly detected and working out-of-box; most of the software that he would use on Vista was also on Mandriva ( OpenOffice, Firefox and Netbeans) and the best part is that for Mandriva he does not have to buy any anti-virus.
Needless to say that he instantly installed Mandriva on the hard disk, dual booting with Vista. Finally he got the speed he required and saved money on anti-virus. This all was not done by "Downgrading to XP", but instead by "Upgrading to Mandriva".
P.S: After a while we did try Ubuntu on the same Laptop, but he felt that Mandriva LiveCD was faster and decided to stick to Mandriva.

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Welcome on board :)
Don't hesitate to consult the Mandriva documentation :
Mandriva 2008.1 Spring Official doc
Mandriva wiki
Mandriva is great. The only downside to it really is that apt is so much greater than urpmi. Pulling a system update is much faster with apt than urpmi. Urpmi downloads packages one at a time. Apt downloads multiple packages one at a time. That's the main selling point for me on debian. Other than that i wish mandriva would port their easy to use and great firewall invictus to other linux platforms. Mandriva has support for everything under the sun for codecs right out of the box, including wma/wmv playback out of the box, libdvdcss2 is necessary to get though.
Your friend should have a lot of fun with mandriva 2009 when it comes. Mandriva really is a crapload better than ubuntu. But, mandriva screws with my soundcard, and the mandriva only control panel sort of ruins things a lot. You only get it with mandriva, nothing else. Ubuntu is very vanilla linux compared to mandriva and that's why it's great.
Well, Dell has been known to give refunds on Windows. I think a US customer can get 50 USD after telling Dell they never used the Vista Home Basic that it came with (and thus never agreed to the license agreement) and would like a refund so you can install your own operating system.
Of course, it sounds like your friend already clicked "I agree" and connected it to the internet, so dell might have some record of that and refuse a refund. I don't know.
Personally, I would recommend Linux. He's using all OpenSource software anyway, so provided he doesn't need to test his java applications on Windows he's fine without it. I would hope he has multiple copies of windows, linux, mac osx, etc to test his applications on at work anyway, so it shouldn't really matter what's on his home machine.
Thanks Guys.
Shamil, agreed apt is better than urpmi for full system update, however urpmi although slow performs its task preety well. We have 8Mbps connection on which I have achieved speeds upto 1125Kbps, so downloading speed is not much of problem.
The only speed we care about is the speed of runnig applications and in that field, Mandriva outshines any apt based competetiors.
Bob,
Thats a nice feature that Dell offers in US. However, here in Singapore things are not so rosy. I just checked Dell US site and the same LAptop there is for 600.00 USD = 846.960 SGD, whereas here it is for SGD 1099.
I think US guys get a lot of other perks which we are deprived of; at least as far as elecrtonics prices goes :).
My Freiend writes Java application which generally are easily portable across OSes. Good part is that on Mandriva the fonts look as good as on Windows so the look and feel of his applications is consistent in Windows and Mandriva.
Well, they don't overtly /offer/ a refund, but I hear they're putting up much less of a fight about it and I certainly know it's not limited to just the US--I've heard of people in Europe and Australia getting refunds as well.
I'd say give it a shot. At worst you spend a couple of hours mostly on hold on the phone while you configure Mandriva, with brief periods in between telling the guy why you deserve a refund ;)
Here's some tips on getting one:
http://www.linux.com/articles/59381
Happy you've had such a great experience with Mandriva. I've used OpenSUSE, Mandriva and Fedora, over the past three years on both desktop and laptops. Mandriva has been the nearly perfect system for me and I've used nothing else for the past year or so. It's installed on all five of my home systems, as well as having installed it for several friends.
I know Ubuntu is the most popular of the Linux distros and I just have experimented with Hardy Heron and returned to Mandriva. It's fast, easy and works! Right now, I'm running Mandriva 2009 Beta 2 with KDE4 on my test system and have very few complaints!
Best wishes and enjoy Mandriva!
It's like a reading a chapter out of my diary!
I only do tech support for friends-family on Linux boxes because 98% of my Windows fixing was dealign with virus, spyware, malware, etc.
But since Vista, I've had many, many people ask me about this Leenux thing I use on my old T21 laptop (Xubuntu).
Live CD's are a great way for people to try out the various distros and KDE is the overwhelming favorite.
As a Gentoo freak, I used to install Kubuntu on friends laptops but noticed about a year ago that PCLinuxOS was the top distro. I tried it, loved it and its my newbie distro. Installing a dual boot is easy and looks beautiful. I must have done 20 PCLOS installs and had minor problems on maybe 3 of them.
I DL the latest Mandriva and will definitely try it out when I get the chance because I and others have been so happy with its offshoot, PCLINUXOS.
This article made me want to install it right away. Always a sign of good writing!!
I have been a long-time mandriva/mandrake user. From time to time, I did try other distros on spare partitions due to their hype but they don't come close. The only one which does is opensuse. Currently I am on opensuse 11 and the only reason is because it is released with KDE 4.
When mandriva releases 2009, I may install it alongside opensuse on all my desktops.
ubuntu is a POS - it shouldn't exist. It gives linux a bad name; not because it is a crappy distro (which it is) but because it makes so much hype and FUD.
I would use Debian. I really like the new beta. I have never used it before and I do like Mandriva but I seem to like Debian better. I have an older system as well and for me both work great.
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